In this edition of ODAC Chat, the focus of discussion moved to the cross country side of the conference's track & field and cross country ranks. J.J. was joined by Brandon Spalding, the head coach for men's cross country at Washington and Lee University. He is also the chair of the ODAC men's and women's cross country coaches. Brandon peeled back the curtain on the success of Generals' men's and women's cross country -- the latter program led by Mike Dager -- as well as the growth of the sport over his years first as an All-ODAC runner at Bridgewater College and now in his eighth season holding the coaching reins at W&L.